Brown for President next?

[Tommy Gun]

left or right...you guys are so incredibly addicted to the politcal crack pipe its unreal...

I'm happy that you are content with the economy and direction of our Country. There are a few that think it is time for some REAL change and a new direction. Americans are often criticized for their politcal indifference; I'm happy to see more people becoming aware of whats going on. I much prefer educated voters and debate vs. what happened in the last election. Of course you always have the option to choose what you read.

 

[tunnelvision69]

left or right...you guys are so incredibly addicted to the politcal crack pipe its unreal...

I would love to get back to spending time on other issues but right now we must be involved to save our country. I don't stare at my security system all day but when a foreigner breaks in & tries too take my stuff security gets my attention!!

 

[LotoSteve]

left or right...you guys are so incredibly addicted to the politcal crack pipe its unreal...

Its called being an informed voter.......

 

[phragle]

Did I at anytime say I was content or happy with the current state of things?? Did I ever say I didn't ****ing care? What I am talking about is the difference between a good guard dog and a rabid mut that smells blood. Just because a repubilcan said "god bless you" after his secretary sneezed doesn't make him the next presidential candidate... Just because the WhiteHouse maid told TMZ that Obama had skid marks in his boxers last week doesn't mean the world is going to end....

 

[VtSteve]

I think Brown will surprise many, and madden many as well. He is a pragmatic thinker, unusual nowadays, and hated by the fringes. He's already gearing up for how he could reshape the health reform more to his liking. He likes it a lot already. Heck, he supported Romney's plan, which was pretty outrageous. Supported by McCain as well

I think he'll do fine, but he's a newbie, and it will take time to learn the ropes. I think if the right wingers think he's a rubber stamp, they need to look at his position on term limits and the people. A welcome addition. For every Delay and Pelosi that can be led out the door, the better off we'll all be.

 

[Steve 1]

"reshape the health care reform" ,Your Kidding ? Hell NO !! THAT Evil Commie Monstrosity needs trashed!! We need Tort Reform ,But the Kenyan here has cut a deal with the Ambulance chasers so they get a pass on regulation. McCain!!!!!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha he is part of the problem!

 

[VtSteve]

"reshape the health care reform" ,Your Kidding ? Hell NO !! THAT Evil Commie Monstrosity needs trashed!! We need Tort Reform ,But the Kenyan here has cut a deal with the Ambulance chasers so they get a pass on regulation. McCain!!!!!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha he is part of the problem!

Steve, did you ever sit back and wonder where the massive savings from tort reform were in the useless package presented that was scored by the CBO? Like pi$$ing in the ocean. The massive savings are nowhere to be found. If you followed the stock market this week, you'd see who was happy. Their earnings and cash flow were being scored as well.

If you heard Brown discuss things today, you'd probably not like what he had they say. The only people you don't think are part of the problem are hopefully not electable. It will probably take another ten years before the costs of healthcare seriously impair the country, and cause a backlash unheard of. It will take at least that amount of time before a politician can say, and be heard, that we can't afford whatever it is we have now.

Pragmatic thinkers will rule the day then, because partisans will be voted out, on both sides. The desperate cries of financial woes from the Boomer generation will drown out all of the fringe groups.

If McCain's health care proposal was ever passed, we'd have that happen a lot sooner.

 

[Steve 1]

Steve, did you ever sit back and wonder where the massive savings from tort reform were in the useless package presented that was scored by the CBO? Like pi$$ing in the ocean. The massive savings are nowhere to be found. If you followed the stock market this week, you'd see who was happy. Their earnings and cash flow were being scored as well.

If you heard Brown discuss things today, you'd probably not like what he had they say. The only people you don't think are part of the problem are hopefully not electable. It will probably take another ten years before the costs of healthcare seriously impair the country, and cause a backlash unheard of. It will take at least that amount of time before a politician can say, and be heard, that we can't afford whatever it is we have now.

Pragmatic thinkers will rule the day then, because partisans will be voted out, on both sides. The desperate cries of financial woes from the Boomer generation will drown out all of the fringe groups.

If McCain's health care proposal was ever passed, we'd have that happen a lot sooner.

The very fact you mentioned McCain speaks Volumes?? BTW who did you vote for Obama? I am catching the Lefty drift here!

Evidently you Missed the Doctor in his crowd celebrating at election headquarters last night and his saying None of them want this ,What they want is the Legal system checked; Tort reform!! and the clapping that followed!! this health care bill is Illegal and Unconstitutional FYI Cheers.

 

[phragle]

Tort reform... I laugh at your misguidedness. The lawyers are doing their job. they are representing their client to the fullest extent they can. Thats their job. it was what they are trained, certified and paid to do. The real problem is with the judges. The judges are not dismissing frivolous cases, the judges are allowing ridiculous awards. If you hired a lawyer, and he didn't go after everything possible and as aggressively as possible, you would be biothcing and hiring another lawyer to sue the first lawyer for not fully representing you. A lawyer just says "you wronged my client and you owe him" The judge is the one who actually decides if the wrong has merit, allows the case to go forward and approves the award. Hell you could sue Obama for failing to represent your interests.. find a lawyer somewhere to take the case.. but the judge decides if the case goes foreword, and if a jury awards you 70 billion dollars, that judge can go ahead and reduce that award to 50 cents.... If your going to biotch about the system at least educate yourself to the point that you understand what your biotching about instead of spewing rhetoric.

 

[Steve 1]

Tort reform... I laugh at your misguidedness. The lawyers are doing their job. they are representing their client to the fullest extent they can. Thats their job. it was what they are trained, certified and paid to do. The real problem is with the judges. The judges are not dismissing frivolous cases, the judges are allowing ridiculous awards. If you hired a lawyer, and he didn't go after everything possible and as aggressively as possible, you would be biothcing and hiring another lawyer to sue the first lawyer for not fully representing you. A lawyer just says "you wronged my client and you owe him" The judge is the one who actually decides if the wrong has merit, allows the case to go forward and approves the award. Hell you could sue Obama for failing to represent your interests.. find a lawyer somewhere to take the case.. but the judge decides if the case goes foreword, and if a jury awards you 70 billion dollars, that judge can go ahead and reduce that award to 50 cents.... If your going to biotch about the system at least educate yourself to the point that you understand what your biotching about instead of spewing rhetoric.

Dude shake the Cob webs out ,We have but 4.5 % of the earths population and 66 % of the Lawyers!!! The Democrat party is the party of YOU Listening???? LAWYERS Lawyers and More Lawyers Got it ? then go on and explain why the medical field pays so much for Insurance?? and Why the Breck Girl Edwards made 26 Million 4 Years before he was a Senator driving doctors away.. But then Who really pays?? You and I do for People like this creep.

 

[Tommy Gun]

While I am a proponent of tort reform, it is only a small part fo the reform necessary to lower health care costs...

When President Barack Obama addressed Congress earlier this year on health care reform, one of the concessions he made to lawmakers who oppose his efforts was to experiment with tort reform on a state level. States eager to rein in health care costs have already been engaging in tort reform, however, with mixed results.

In Missouri, tort reform was enacted in 2005, placing a cap of $350,000 on non-economic damages such as pain and suffering. A pair of doctors who supported the limits on jury awards to people who suffer medical malpractice told the Lincoln Journal Star that they had seen their malpractice insurance premiums drop from 24 to 30 percent.

While that's good news for doctors, patients in Missouri continue to see health care costs rise. The same is true in states that enacted even more severe limits on malpractice awards, such as Texas.

Why Doesn't Tort Reform Deliver Lower Costs?

The biggest reason plummeting medical malpractice insurance premiums don't result in a corresponding drop in health care costs for the average person is that malpractice insurance is a tiny part of the overall cost of care. Reliable estimates place the cost of malpractice litigation at approximately two percent of this nation's $2.2 trillion health care costs.

Because Missouri issues regular reports on medical malpractice, it's easy to track the changes in malpractice lawsuits in recent years.

From 2006 to 2007, the number of paid malpractice claims increased from 514 to 719 before declining last year to 564. From 2005 to 2006, the average awards to victims of malpractice in the state declined 15.9 percent (from $253,000 to $213,000). Awards fell another 8.5 percent in 2007 and then rose by 3.8 percent in 2008.

The director of Missouri's Department of Insurance, Financial Institutions and Professional Registration said that claim payments are less than 20 percent of overall health insurance premiums.

While the debate over health care reform is far from over, the numbers tell a clear story: tort reform lowers doctors' costs and awards to victims of malpractice, it hasn't resulted in lowered health care costs for the rest of us.

 

[BUIZILLA]

glad he won but he is still too liberal for my taste....but...i can see a romney/brown ticket in 2012.

:usa:

 

[Steve 1]

While I am a proponent of tort reform, it is only a small part fo the reform necessary to lower health care costs...

When President Barack Obama addressed Congress earlier this year on health care reform, one of the concessions he made to lawmakers who oppose his efforts was to experiment with tort reform on a state level. States eager to rein in health care costs have already been engaging in tort reform, however, with mixed results.

In Missouri, tort reform was enacted in 2005, placing a cap of $350,000 on non-economic damages such as pain and suffering. A pair of doctors who supported the limits on jury awards to people who suffer medical malpractice told the Lincoln Journal Star that they had seen their malpractice insurance premiums drop from 24 to 30 percent.

While that's good news for doctors, patients in Missouri continue to see health care costs rise. The same is true in states that enacted even more severe limits on malpractice awards, such as Texas.

Why Doesn't Tort Reform Deliver Lower Costs?

The biggest reason plummeting medical malpractice insurance premiums don't result in a corresponding drop in health care costs for the average person is that malpractice insurance is a tiny part of the overall cost of care. Reliable estimates place the cost of malpractice litigation at approximately two percent of this nation's $2.2 trillion health care costs.

Because Missouri issues regular reports on medical malpractice, it's easy to track the changes in malpractice lawsuits in recent years.

From 2006 to 2007, the number of paid malpractice claims increased from 514 to 719 before declining last year to 564. From 2005 to 2006, the average awards to victims of malpractice in the state declined 15.9 percent (from $253,000 to $213,000). Awards fell another 8.5 percent in 2007 and then rose by 3.8 percent in 2008.

The director of Missouri's Department of Insurance, Financial Institutions and Professional Registration said that claim payments are less than 20 percent of overall health insurance premiums.

While the debate over health care reform is far from over, the numbers tell a clear story: tort reform lowers doctors' costs and awards to victims of malpractice, it hasn't resulted in lowered health care costs for the rest of us.

Obama will not touch the lawyers like the unions they give him huge dollars.

 

[phragle]

Good job of attempting to defelect reality. emember De-nile is a river in Egypt. no award is is given without the judge approving it. no frivilous case moves foreward without the judge approving it. politics is all about creating laws, rules, regulations etc.. so a lot of politicians are lawyers. If politics involved milking cows, I suspect a lot of farmers would be in office. Why does the medical field pay so much for insurance? because judges allow huge awards. If you want to change the world, put your friggin name on the ballot. Grandstanding on your soapbox infront of a bunch of boaters on the internet will only serve to fuel your selfimage. If you want to cause change, then put yourself in a position to due so. Your like a guy who complains that the food at the local diner sucks, yet you go back to the diner everyday and still complain..even though everyday you walk through the doors you pass a big sign that says "cook wanted inquire within"

 

[Steve 1]

Good job of attempting to defelect reality. emember De-nile is a river in Egypt. no award is is given without the judge approving it. no frivilous case moves foreward without the judge approving it. politics is all about creating laws, rules, regulations etc.. so a lot of politicians are lawyers. If politics involved milking cows, I suspect a lot of farmers would be in office. Why does the medical field pay so much for insurance? because judges allow huge awards. If you want to change the world, put your friggin name on the ballot. Grandstanding on your soapbox infront of a bunch of boaters on the internet will only serve to fuel your selfimage. If you want to cause change, then put yourself in a position to due so. Your like a guy who complains that the food at the local diner sucks, yet you go back to the diner everyday and still complain..even though everyday you walk through the doors you pass a big sign that says "cook wanted inquire within"

NO I guess you have never heard of "Jackpot Justice" LOL do try to catch up!!

 

[VtSteve]

Fact is, if all legitimate case were filed, and bogus ones were not, they'd really be in trouble.

Thanks for the facts though, they generally track the insurance department here as well.

Not a big deal.

Good for investors.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Score-One-for-the-GOP-indie-3769981798.html?x=0&.v=1

 

[phragle]

NO I guess you have never heard of "Jackpot Justice" LOL do try to catch up!!

Does not exist without a JUDGES approval. PERIOD. I work in healthcare. If I ****ed up and say as a result you lost your leg, you would find a lawyer and sue for everything you could get. a jury may award you $20mil... the judge has the power to reduce it to 1 mill, 500k or if he thinks you lost your leg because you refuse the antibiotics you werespposed to take, drop that jackpot to $1.00 and we haven't even begun to delve into the insurance co.'s using the settlements as a scare tactic to hide behind while increasing rates to increase profits.... Catch up? you havent even figured out which way to go, much less catch up....

 

[phragle]

Simple fact is the lawyers job is not to determine right from wrong, it is to represent their client.

 

[phragle]

And Steve... just so there is no confusion,
I have no beef with you personally. I simply disagree with your opinion that tort reform will solve the ills of society....

 

[VtSteve]

The very fact you mentioned McCain speaks Volumes?? BTW who did you vote for Obama? I am catching the Lefty drift here!

I guess like everything else, you missed this part.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/EJMontini/72023
"New Mass. senator already campaigning for McCain




Talk about fast.

This after noon a pre-recorded message was left Wednesday on the phones of thousands of Arizonans (including me) supporting the re-election of U.S. Sen. John McCain.

What’s interesting about the robocall is that the person speaking is Scott Brown, the Republican upstart elected to the U.S. senate from Massachusetts.

Here is the complete text:

BROWN: “Hello this is newly elected United States Senator Scott Brown from Massachusetts and I’m honored at the role that your senator John McCain played in my election yesterday. When few thought that I had a chance of winning, John stood by me and supported my campaign. He was the first one. I want to thank him for his support of me, and I want to encourage you to continue to support John. I look forward to joining him as he fights against wasteful spending and a government takeover of your health care. Please call his campaign today at 602-604-2010 and tell John what a great job he’s doing. Thank you for your time.”
WOMAN’S VOICE: “This call has been paid for by friends of John McCain.”