Mercury Marine To Close And Move All Production From Fond du Lac, Wisconsin......

Wife said there was something on the news about a high number of employees that will be retiring soon, were told if they vote in the unions's favor they can retire early with a buy out. If they vote against the union, they lose their pension. She only caught the tail end of the story.
 
Over what they're getting to start with, or what they are being asked to give up?

Over what they are getting to start with.

The Typesetters Union in NY went on strike and the newspapers wouldn't publish the details..... (truck drivers at $150,000+, typesetters sleeping the entire shift because the automated printing presses had reduced labor needed to virtually zero but jobs could not be eliminated, printers working 3 consecutive shifts daily at 3 separate newspapers while sleeping at each job.....etc). This followed a long tradition of the media (in most cases also unionized)..... failing to detail actual contract terms. You will see "sticking points" generally preceeded by "Management refuses to............." and a lot of nonsense like "Fat cats living off the backs of the workers.....".

I've been directly involved in many Teamster and Longshoreman trucking negotiations and what ultimately loosened their stranglehold was (ironically) Ted Kennedy's trucking deregulation bill. This allowed open (mostly non union) entry into the industry in 1980. Since then the union has fallen mightily, along with its organized crime muscle, and threats to "paralyze the highways.....and break your legs".

Prior to that it was basically a free for all of thuggery, murders, no show jobs, time theft, payoffs, and work rules that would make you puke. In one instance the terminal manager was not allowed in the shop steward's office and that same terminal had a huge numbers operation operating out of the permanently placed 24 hour lunch wagon (with a nod from the Teamsters local). If you want a little more insight....google "Tony Provenzano".
 
YRC cut their employees 15% also. Will probably still go bankrupt though according to those who are supposed to know.

They will, but not before dragging pricing down industry wide........

A classic example of a Dinosaur trying to survive in the ice age.
 
They will, but not before dragging pricing down industry wide........

A classic example of a Dinosaur trying to survive in the ice age.


Good analogy.

Associated Press

August 12, 2009

Workers' wage concessions won't be enough to help YRC Worldwide Inc. avoid bankruptcy in the long term, an analyst said Wednesday as he downgraded the trucker.

Analyst David Ross of Stifel Nicolaus lowered his rating on the Overland Park, Kan.-based company to "Sell" from "Hold."

Shares fell 20 cents, or nearly 9 percent, to $2.10 in premarket trading. The stock has ranged from 89 cents to $20.53 over the past year.

Ross wrote in a client note he does not believe a plan approved last Friday by workers to cut wages and make other concessions will be a long-term fix for the company's "financial, operational and competitive problems."

Bankruptcy is not imminent, he said, "but we do believe it is becoming increasingly likely." YRC Worldwide should remain in business probably at least into this year's fourth quarter, Ross said.

"While we have tried to be more constructive on YRC, as many have piled on the bankruptcy bandwagon, and have looked for ways the company could survive, the seemingly constant need to amend its credit agreement and continued failure to meet already dismal cash flow and earnings expectations leads us to believe there is no 'turn' around the corner," he said.

Workers represented by the Teamsters union ratified the plan to cut their wages by an additional 5 percent and forfeit company pension contributions for 18 months. The agreement is widely believed to be a necessary step to stave off bankruptcy.

YRC Worldwide, which runs trucks under New Penn, Yellow and Roadway names, expects the deal to save it $45 million to $50 million a month, or about $1.2 billion through the remainder of the workers' contracts.

Ross said that if YRC Worldwide survives through 2010, it would likely be through a Chapter 11 restructuring in which debt holders would own the company.

YRC had no immediate comment Wednesday morning.
 
We know, you use an Apple. :26::rofl::sifone:

Not that there is anything wrong with that...

There were a lot of factors that had to be figured into the equation for the long run.
Cost of expanding the Stillwater facility to house all production was huge.
Renovation of some of the existing Stillwater facility. For example, all Stillwater R&D is spose to be, if not already moved to Fond du Lac due to aging and inadequate equipment. The test tanks need to replaced at the cost of 4 million dollars alone. Production efficiency in Stillwater is considerably lower then Fond du Lac. Proximity to industrial centers, shipping hubs and vendors. Contract work for other manufacturers. The foundry at Fond du Lac does a lot of casting for Harley Davidson and others.

But there is a difference in how capital expenditures are counted against earnings. So even if they had to spend $100 million in capital to renovate/build/move it could still easily have a positive impact to earnings by the reduction of direct expense. It seems the foundry could live on its own and doesn't have to be part of this deal. So they could keep operating it or sell it off.

I wouldn't worry too much about shipping hubs, industrial centers and vendors. T-Bone Pickens paved all the roads around Stillwater when he was doing all the upgrades at OSU. You only have to travel a couple of hours east to find Walmart. They do a little shipping themselves. The vendors will already have the read carpet out to welcome Mercury to wherever they move.
 
Not that there is anything wrong with that...



But there is a difference in how capital expenditures are counted against earnings. So even if they had to spend $100 million in capital to renovate/build/move it could still easily have a positive impact to earnings by the reduction of direct expense. It seems the foundry could live on its own and doesn't have to be part of this deal. So they could keep operating it or sell it off.

I wouldn't worry too much about shipping hubs, industrial centers and vendors. T-Bone Pickens paved all the roads around Stillwater when he was doing all the upgrades at OSU. You only have to travel a couple of hours east to find Walmart. They do a little shipping themselves. The vendors will already have the read carpet out to welcome Mercury to wherever they move.

The foundry there is cool. Would love to have had their ergonomic arm in either of the foundries I've run.
 
But there is a difference in how capital expenditures are counted against earnings. So even if they had to spend $100 million in capital to renovate/build/move it could still easily have a positive impact to earnings by the reduction of direct expense. It seems the foundry could live on its own and doesn't have to be part of this deal. So they could keep operating it or sell it off.

I wouldn't worry too much about shipping hubs, industrial centers and vendors. T-Bone Pickens paved all the roads around Stillwater when he was doing all the upgrades at OSU. You only have to travel a couple of hours east to find Walmart. They do a little shipping themselves. The vendors will already have the read carpet out to welcome Mercury to wherever they move.

If you look at industry sales trends you really have to question if Mercury would need to expand the Stillwater facilities at all.

T2x
 
There were a lot of factors that had to be figured into the equation for the long run.
Cost of expanding the Stillwater facility to house all production was huge.
Renovation of some of the existing Stillwater facility. For example, all Stillwater R&D is spose to be, if not already moved to Fond du Lac due to aging and inadequate equipment. The test tanks need to replaced at the cost of 4 million dollars alone. Production efficiency in Stillwater is considerably lower then Fond du Lac. Proximity to industrial centers, shipping hubs and vendors. Contract work for other manufacturers. The foundry at Fond du Lac does a lot of casting for Harley Davidson and others.

Like I said, moving isn't always cheaper! ;)
 
Prior to that it was basically a free for all of thuggery, murders, no show jobs, time theft, payoffs, and work rules that would make you puke. In one instance the terminal manager was not allowed in the shop steward's office and that same terminal had a huge numbers operation operating out of the permanently placed 24 hour lunch wagon (with a nod from the Teamsters local). If you want a little more insight....google "Tony Provenzano".

Back in the 80's my father was approached by the Conti's, they wanted him to be a part of their dubachery... He declined..... and so did his business... :(
 
Interesting you should say that. The stats are alarmingly worse. The changes in stats to lie (yes lie) about the condition of the economy, and say how wonderful we're fixing things, is astonishing.


Friday, August 07, 2009



BARACK OBAMA

So What's the Real Unemployment Rate?


Hmm. In June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said the civilian labor force was 154,926,000 people.

In July, 796,000 of those were taken out of their definition of the workforce, and thus their unemployment calculations for this month, because they have stopped looking for work "because they believe no jobs are available for them." Ten percent of the June workforce would be 15.4 million, 1 percent would be 1.5 million, and so 796,000 is roughly one half of one percent.

In other words, BLS took .5 percent of what you and I would consider unemployed and took them out of their total. And with that, unemployment went down one tenth of one percent.

Of course, if you take the July number of unemployed, 14.5 million, and add that 796,000 of discouraged workers, you get a total of 15,296,000.

In a work force of July’s number of 154,504,000, that’s an unemployment rate of 9.9 percent.

In a work force of June’s number of 154,926,000, that’s an unemployment rate of 9.8 percent.

The BLS definition of "unemployed" is working out in an extremely convenient manner for the Obama administration. Roughly 800,000 people who want jobs and can't find any disappeared off the books.

The unemployment rate declined from month to month, even though the total number of Americans employed with a job decreased. If you don't find that a signal that the happy headlines are misleading, I don't know what else to tell you.
 
The latest from IBI;

Mercury President: Fond du Lac manufacturing hinges on Sunday's union vote

By IBI Magazine

The fate of Mercury Marine's manufacturing operations in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, will be determined by its union's vote on Sunday. Mercury President Mark Schwabero said in a Thursday press conference that if the 838 union members reject the proposed contract changes, the "population of workers in Fond du Lac will decline."

Union officials of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, who spent several weeks negotiating with Mercury before talks ended with no agreement, told local media that they would vote "no" on the contract. One union leader called it "trash."

Union workers will now have a chance to vote for the revised contract, which includes changes regarding wages, benefits and operational flexibility.

"Those changes would allow us to be more competitive in those areas," said Schwabero. "We've done a lot of internal restructuring, but in spite of all that cost-cutting, we need to rationalize our manufacturing operations." The company has cut about 40 per cent of its non-union workforce over the last two years.

Schwabero said if the union rejects the revised contract, then Fond du Lac manufacturing would remain a "higher-cost" facility than its MerCruiser plant in Stillwater, Oklahoma.

Schwabero said that both plants' current capacities are running from 15 to 40 per cent, so it would make sense to consolidate operations."We believe that the boating industry will stay at a reduced level and that the recovery will be slower than in the past," he said. "If the union votes no, we would not move work into a higher cost location like Fond du Lac, and over time, jobs would move out to other lower-cost locations." But if union ratifies the contract, he added, Fond du Lac would be considered a "cost-competitive" location.

Even if the union votes no, and manufacturing is closed down in Fond du Lac, Mercury could retain it as its corporate headquarters, with limited manufacturing, customer service, IT and other functions. Schwabero added that, if the union rejects the proposed changes, the company would honor the existing contract, which still has about three years to run.

A "yes" vote on Sunday would mean that the current number of manufacturing jobs would remain in Fond du Lac, said Schwabero, and that more manufacturing jobs from Stillwater might end up there. "The impact on Stillwater would remain to be seen," said Schwabero. "We're more focused on getting Fond du Lac more competitive. We'll know after the vote."

Union leaders told local news sources that Mercury is disseminating half-truths about the contract. "He alluded to the fact that nobody would be losing any money that is here now, and that's just not true," union negotiator Russell Krings told WBAY. "I mean, they're going to be paying our vacation different, they're going to be taking some holidays away from us, our health care will be going up."

Union coordinate Dan Longsine added: "When I get up in front, I will not tell somebody else how to vote. Personally, I will vote no on this trash that the company has offered our employees."

Under the new contract, said Schwabero, current workers would not see a reduction in wages, though there would be fewer vacation days and any new hires or rehired employees would enter at a lower wage scale. But he said that salary level is "competitive" for the Fox Valley area. The proposals for "operational flexibility" would allow the company to respond better to changing market conditions. "Right now, we have 58 job classifications, and our proposal would bring that down to 11," he said. "It's the same flexibility we have in many of our other manufacturing locations. That agility is critical going forward."

Schwabero said a final decision on Mercury's future will be made by "summer's end."



(21 August 2009)
 
Wife said there was something on the news about a high number of employees that will be retiring soon, were told if they vote in the unions's favor they can retire early with a buy out. If they vote against the union, they lose their pension. She only caught the tail end of the story.

I'm not sure I believe this but if it is remotely true, the no vote is fait accompli.


Real Men of Genius Union coordinate Dan Longsine added: "When I get up in front, I will not tell somebody else how to vote. Personally, I will vote no on this trash that the company has offered our employees."
 
Not that there is anything wrong with that...



But there is a difference in how capital expenditures are counted against earnings. So even if they had to spend $100 million in capital to renovate/build/move it could still easily have a positive impact to earnings by the reduction of direct expense. It seems the foundry could live on its own and doesn't have to be part of this deal. So they could keep operating it or sell it off.

I wouldn't worry too much about shipping hubs, industrial centers and vendors. T-Bone Pickens paved all the roads around Stillwater when he was doing all the upgrades at OSU. You only have to travel a couple of hours east to find Walmart. They do a little shipping themselves. The vendors will already have the read carpet out to welcome Mercury to wherever they move.


get your chapstick out for some HR work you ass kisser :kiss:
 
I'm not sure I believe this but if it is remotely true, the no vote is fait accompli.

She just caught the tail end of it on the news. They were talking about optional buy out vs loss of pension if the vote did or didn't go through. Maybe it was speculation or she misinterpreted from what little she caught of it.

Wait.....did I just insinuate that the media would speculate??:eek:
 
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