skaterdave
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the unification post was turning into dragging a dead horse.
i'll spit out a few facts and add my opinion.
offshore racing was probably at its best back when abpa was running supercat, around 2000 to 2002?? you had atleast 8 plus boats, quality racing and it seemed to be growing. now, i don't know much about Mike A, other than he was running abpa offshore along with the help of some others but since i think that was the best we have had and seen i give him a big thumbs up!! even though your a lawyer and probably charge too much and you also seem to be motived more by money than the offshore racing itself. but i'd have to meet you before making any real judgements.
back to how to fix it?? well thats easy to see, but complicated to complete. as for the one premier class, i see basicly what the class one guys are doing. Maritimo has already shown, or atleast attempted to run with the big $$$ teams and had some success and that using old merc supercat engines. racing here in the US resembles more of a poker run than actually racing. just look how many teams actually have a full time crew and race for a living. we can count them on one hand. sbi's said they got tv and its still hasn't help them with boat count. and just look at the last thread, how many racers were on there discussing how to fix things. a few of the current svls, gino( whos trying to start another class), fans and ex-racers and one of the turbine guys who's saying they should have raced in another class with more competition. none of the big guys seem to care. i guess that with only one class that would mean less trophies ?
oss seems to be down for the count and i see or hear a possible buy out and merger of some kind with the two remaining. would this be good, maybe but some how i think that those with the money are not really looking to make the sport as a whole better but more to advance their own agendas.
as for class rules or changes well heres my thought:
smitty's P5,4,3 seem to be really working, especially the P5 class. just wish he'd switch over to a garmin gps rather than the current model. and throw the bat boats in with what ever gino's comes up with.
anything over 90 mph should have a canopy. for everyone that opposes me on this idea, i would invite you down to florida where i'll take out in the gulf of mexico and at exactly 90 mph you can jump off my boat head first. i'll repeat this process until you convince yourself the canopy rule is the way to go.
power to weight for the vees
use the class one rules for the cats ( add some sort of power to weight)
everything else must go or be pushed into the above classes.
yes some of you might go a little slower, some might be ****ed that there not winning, but if your true racers, i think that you would rather take a fifth out of ten rather than a first out of one, well maybe.
the IROC type series i think sucks. racers want something they can tweak and work on. this is why i think the 850 class doesn't work. the idea that some how you'll keep costs down by limiting the rules, drives, motors or boat design will just keep the racing stagnant atleast for the premier class. plus those wit the $$$$ still find ways to spend it. instead of buying a bunch of different pitch props now you got guys having 4 of the same pitch since the rule limits you to a certain size. plus then you run into the tech problems with having one of the suppliers for some of the teams doing tech. can you say conflict?
next until we get some kinda of unified class with rules and tech, why bother with prize money. why not distrubute the money out evenly as tow money. this way those that have boats the they know aren't winners will wanna come out and race. and soon enough those in the back will be having just as much fun since there will be more compitition and you'll have good racing threw out the whole field.
i'll spit out a few facts and add my opinion.
offshore racing was probably at its best back when abpa was running supercat, around 2000 to 2002?? you had atleast 8 plus boats, quality racing and it seemed to be growing. now, i don't know much about Mike A, other than he was running abpa offshore along with the help of some others but since i think that was the best we have had and seen i give him a big thumbs up!! even though your a lawyer and probably charge too much and you also seem to be motived more by money than the offshore racing itself. but i'd have to meet you before making any real judgements.
back to how to fix it?? well thats easy to see, but complicated to complete. as for the one premier class, i see basicly what the class one guys are doing. Maritimo has already shown, or atleast attempted to run with the big $$$ teams and had some success and that using old merc supercat engines. racing here in the US resembles more of a poker run than actually racing. just look how many teams actually have a full time crew and race for a living. we can count them on one hand. sbi's said they got tv and its still hasn't help them with boat count. and just look at the last thread, how many racers were on there discussing how to fix things. a few of the current svls, gino( whos trying to start another class), fans and ex-racers and one of the turbine guys who's saying they should have raced in another class with more competition. none of the big guys seem to care. i guess that with only one class that would mean less trophies ?
oss seems to be down for the count and i see or hear a possible buy out and merger of some kind with the two remaining. would this be good, maybe but some how i think that those with the money are not really looking to make the sport as a whole better but more to advance their own agendas.
as for class rules or changes well heres my thought:
smitty's P5,4,3 seem to be really working, especially the P5 class. just wish he'd switch over to a garmin gps rather than the current model. and throw the bat boats in with what ever gino's comes up with.
anything over 90 mph should have a canopy. for everyone that opposes me on this idea, i would invite you down to florida where i'll take out in the gulf of mexico and at exactly 90 mph you can jump off my boat head first. i'll repeat this process until you convince yourself the canopy rule is the way to go.
power to weight for the vees
use the class one rules for the cats ( add some sort of power to weight)
everything else must go or be pushed into the above classes.
yes some of you might go a little slower, some might be ****ed that there not winning, but if your true racers, i think that you would rather take a fifth out of ten rather than a first out of one, well maybe.
the IROC type series i think sucks. racers want something they can tweak and work on. this is why i think the 850 class doesn't work. the idea that some how you'll keep costs down by limiting the rules, drives, motors or boat design will just keep the racing stagnant atleast for the premier class. plus those wit the $$$$ still find ways to spend it. instead of buying a bunch of different pitch props now you got guys having 4 of the same pitch since the rule limits you to a certain size. plus then you run into the tech problems with having one of the suppliers for some of the teams doing tech. can you say conflict?
next until we get some kinda of unified class with rules and tech, why bother with prize money. why not distrubute the money out evenly as tow money. this way those that have boats the they know aren't winners will wanna come out and race. and soon enough those in the back will be having just as much fun since there will be more compitition and you'll have good racing threw out the whole field.
