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Chris..anyone??
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Buoy
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Not to worry.
You'll be able to speed on your way to Dunkin' Donuts, and have no problems speeding or the line at DD.
I wouldn't worry that the layoff is going to affect "Real" crimes in any way.
If you were depending on Toledo's police force to keep you safe...
Police do a wonderful and tough job. But their ability to protect you from a crime is exceptionally limited. Unless you have an officer with you, the bad guy has a distinct advantage. Our laws are based on the concept of deterrence. That only works on people with something to lose- or the presence of mind to comprehend the concept.
Castle doctrine or not, I'm willing to take my chances.
Police do a wonderful and tough job. But their ability to protect you from a crime is exceptionally limited. Unless you have an officer with you, the bad guy has a distinct advantage. Our laws are based on the concept of deterrence. That only works on people with something to lose- or the presence of mind to comprehend the concept.
Castle doctrine or not, I'm willing to take my chances.
03darkshadow
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what really needs to happen is make it easier to get a permit to carry. make people pass a backround check and everything else, then give them a permit if they work in or around big cities.
Tony
Founding Member
In OH, all that is required is NRA basic pistol training and an FBI background check.
I personally wouldnt ask any more or any less for a person to obtain a permit to carry a firearm. I'm about as big of a gun nut as they come but the sad truth of it is that some people law biding or not have absolutly no business carrying a weapon in public. There was a guy in my CCW class that did not pass and I sleep better at night knowing that one less idiot is not walking the street armed.
I personally wouldnt ask any more or any less for a person to obtain a permit to carry a firearm. I'm about as big of a gun nut as they come but the sad truth of it is that some people law biding or not have absolutly no business carrying a weapon in public. There was a guy in my CCW class that did not pass and I sleep better at night knowing that one less idiot is not walking the street armed.
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03darkshadow
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this is what i meant. as long as you can prove you're not completely stupid, sure get one. it'd be funny though, you'd surprise the sh*t out of some robber.
insanity
New member
You can open carry all you want w/o a permit. Just have a tape recorder/camera phone and the little cheat sheet card of what to say to the cops WHEN somebody calls them on you (unless you have a good memory).
In theory, yes. In reality, you'll be immediately arrested and charged with any number of felonies, such as inducing a panic or menacing.
fund razor
Founding Member
I have a Mossburg 590 that was less than 300 bucks new. Is it the world's premiere shotgun? heck no. But it holds a lot of 00 has a decent balance and heft, and I am used to it. Manual pump. 20 inch cylinder bore barrel.
I have learned to trust it. No problems. It is due for a clean and lube, thanks for the reminder.
I remember hearing that the supreme court ruled that it is an unreasonable expectation that police can "protect" citizens. They are primarily an investigative agency.
Tony
Founding Member
Put the SKS in the safe and buy a shotgun. Any sort of rifle for home protection is just a bad idea in general, over penetration being one of many reasons. And for the hundreth time, If your weapon looks like it belongs on the battle field or in a swat van and you shoot someone with it, even in the most justifiable situation, the court will have a hay day with you.
BradB
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keep this next to the bed at home and also carry on the boat with me. Mossburg mariner:sifone:
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Ratickle
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My favorite is the Winchester Coastal Marine 1300 Defender. The main reason is it's the favorite of police agencies. They use special short 12Gauge shells and can shoot in it without jamming. You'll have to ask Chris or someone about that.
Mini-shotshells are only 1-3/4" long, and greatly increase the capacity of pump-action shotguns. They work great in Winchester 1300 shotguns, though other pump guns may not cycle reliably without modification. Perfect for use as low-recoil ammunition for single-shot or double guns as well.
Mini-shotshells are only 1-3/4" long, and greatly increase the capacity of pump-action shotguns. They work great in Winchester 1300 shotguns, though other pump guns may not cycle reliably without modification. Perfect for use as low-recoil ammunition for single-shot or double guns as well.
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fund razor
Founding Member
Ok, mine has a heat shield.
Are you saying I have to use my 28" barrel bird gun? So I look like a duck hunter? Bummer. Wheeling around with that in the house would be like turning the guns on a battleship.
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