At what speed do you wear lifevests?

I'd much rather wear one and not need it, than visa versa.

I had a good friend drown a few years back. He was tossed from his boat at about 35, and people saw him treading water until he just slipped under the water. He'd still be with us today if he had put on a life jacket.

If you don't do it for yourself, do it for the one's who care about you. I can guarantee they won't mention at your eulogy how fast you were going when you drownd.
 
thanks for your concern , i boat mostly in lake havasu and I never saw anyone wearing life vests [fast or slow] , i know its dangerous,but i only run the boat hard when i know its safe , be honest running the skater at 120 to 140 it feels like a Cadillac, i have full control of the boat, again thank you all for your comments, im glad to see all you guys are much safer then us:)

I didn't know Caddilacs were immuned to wrecks. Why bother putting a steering wheel in them, much less seat belts?

(note to self: Never boat on Havasu)
 
I have a Lifeline that I wear when running hard regardless of what the occasion is or conditions are. When cruising or cove hopping, I do not wear one but I should.
 
What cracks me up is the guys wearing canopy vests in open boats. The little self-inflator thingys. Talk about a false sense of safety.

GLH nailed it. A life vest in a performance boat and a parachute in a high-performance jet- great anaogy.
 
Totality of the circumstances dictates when I wear one.

Been well over 100 in calm lake water with out a vest.

Been doing 10 mph in 8 foot seas and 40mph winds in the ocean and had a vest on.

I've seen people die at 30 mph with vests on and die at 110+ with vests on. Sh!t happens, a vest doesn't mean you're going to survive a catostraphic event. If it's your time to go, you-are-outtahere!

Just my .02
 
Totality of the circumstances dictates when I wear one.

Been well over 100 in calm lake water with out a vest.

Been doing 10 mph in 8 foot seas and 40mph winds in the ocean and had a vest on.

I've seen people die at 30 mph with vests on and die at 110+ with vests on. Sh!t happens, a vest doesn't mean you're going to survive a catostraphic event. If it's your time to go, you-are-outtahere!

Just my .02

It means you are 80% less likely to drown. You say when it your time, you're outta here. I'm not sure, but I bet it increases your odds at least tenfold of NOT shooting yourself, if you DON'T play Russian Roulette. You're playing Russian Roulette with your lifejackets, and your life.
 
What cracks me up is the guys wearing canopy vests in open boats. The little self-inflator thingys. Talk about a false sense of safety.

GLH nailed it. A life vest in a performance boat and a parachute in a high-performance jet- great anaogy.

Yep, good luck on it staying on you at anything over 20 mph.
 
I guess you haven't been hurt or learned a hard lesson yet.

That's the point exactly. Somebody(s) dies and safety comes back around. Time passes and then somebody else (who missed the funeral) buys a boat, thinks it rides like a limousine and doesn't realize how fast things can go wrong if a prop comes off, or a drive seizes, or he thinks it handles so well he can turn it just a little tighter....in calm water...at 100 much less 130. Bottom line, before you have time to react or even blink, bodies are flying around ballistically, your windshield is slicing your arm off, and your wife is doing a face plant into your cute little billet speaker cover. Believe me having life jackets on provides flotation and rib/upper body protection (especially with the ballistic inserts). Having gone right through the cockpit wall of a race boat and been upside down more times than I care to remember, I know first hand that good lifejackets are worth their weight in platinum times 10.

By the way the logic behind rough versus calm water life jacket wearing completely escapes me. High speed accidents occur more often in calm water. Rough water slows you down...but can sink more boats. :D

One more thing, no matter how good you think you are as a driver...if you have kids, or people who love you.....see the picture below.



T2x
 

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Another good pratice is wearing kill switches along with your Lifeline jacket in open boats. Maybe even a helmet. We stuffed in NYC in 2004, the doctors in the hospital said if I hadn't had a helmet and the lifeline on I wouldn't be here. My helmet (which was a Bell and three months old) cracked in four places. The thickness of the lifeline and the colar prevented my neck from snapping. Cracked two bones in the neck but I'm still here...Kinda. Just a thought. I have a lot more respect for the water.
 
Another good pratice is wearing kill switches along with your Lifeline jacket in open boats. Maybe even a helmet. We stuffed in NYC in 2004, the doctors in the hospital said if I hadn't had a helmet and the lifeline on I wouldn't be here. My helmet (which was a Bell and three months old) cracked in four places. The thickness of the lifeline and the colar prevented my neck from snapping. Cracked two bones in the neck but I'm still here...Kinda. Just a thought. I have a lot more respect for the water.

Augie:

For purposes of educating others....How fast were you going when that happened?

Rich
 
Okay, so what is the fastest speed a life jacket has been credited with saving someones life?

And, on the same note, should we be wearing helmets above a certain speed?

In terms of really high speed (hydroplane) accidents

Life jackets have frequently kept people afloat wih massive injuries long enough to have been saved. Without a jacket they would have slipped unconsciously under water..and been lost. This happened most recently in Maryland, as I recall, a year or two back.

As far as helmets are concerned, they can't hurt. At speeds over 100 probably a good idea.......see "face plant" comment above. There is a higher risk of "bucketing" if you are thrown out or encounter a blast of water with a full face helmet, so either a flip up mouth guard or some form of neck brace/HANS device is also a good idea.

T2x
 
In terms of really high speed (hydroplane) accidents

Life jackets have frequently kept people afloat wih massive injuries long enough to have been saved. Without a jacket they would have slipped unconsciously under water..and been lost. This happened most recently in Maryland, as I recall, a year or two back.

As far as helmets are concerned, they can't hurt. At speeds over 100 probably a good idea.......see "face plant" comment above. There is a higher risk of "bucketing" if you are thrown out or encounter a blast of water with a full face helmet, so either a flip up mouth guard or some form of neck brace/HANS device is also a good idea.

T2x


Way back when I lived out west, the drag boat guys were working with a helmet design that wouldn't bucket. They were having a hard time getting it approved. I also believe Chip Hanauer (?) was part of it because of Muncie. Maybe Nordskog also. Any idea where that project went?
 
That's the point exactly. Somebody(s) dies and safety comes back around. Time passes and then somebody else (who missed the funeral) buys a boat, thinks it rides like a limousine and doesn't realize how fast things can go wrong if a prop comes off, or a drive seizes, or he thinks it handles so well he can turn it just a little tighter....in calm water...at 100 much less 130. Bottom line, before you have time to react or even blink, bodies are flying around ballistically, your windshield is slicing your arm off, and your wife is doing a face plant into your cute little billet speaker cover. Believe me having life jackets on provides flotation and rib/upper body protection (especially with the ballistic inserts). Having gone right through the cockpit wall of a race boat and been upside down more times than I care to remember, I know first hand that good lifejackets are worth their weight in platinum times 10.

By the way the logic behind rough versus calm water life jacket wearing completely escapes me. High speed accidents occur more often in calm water. Rough water slows you down...but can sink more boats. :D

One more thing, no matter how good you think you are as a driver...if you have kids, or people who love you.....see the picture below.



T2x

Everything you said, says it all.
 
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