What happened???

Okay, Okay I'll shut up, but this is what I was talkng about.

Right size boat, experienced crew, proper trim for conditions and having a ball.

BTW....is Jay the best with these photo shoots of his or what...beautiful.
 

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Okay, Okay I'll shut up, but this is what I was talkng about.

Right size boat, experienced crew, proper trim for conditions and having a ball.

BTW....is Jay the best with these photo shoots of his or what...beautiful.

That is a Statement......:sifone:
 
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Charlie - have you ever noticed at a Poker run - many of the big boats - those that could run in just about any condition safely - as a reasonable speed I might add - that These are the guys in which everyone in the boat is in Uniform - Tough guys - no fear - real racers - right down to the patches ? Were they the ones that did not make the run ? I wonder if they are going to trade in their Colorful Uniforms, or Race Jump suits - for a Panama Hat, and a Hawaiian Shirt - Ya Think ? - No one says get there in a split second - run 35 mph in a 50 ft. boat - Just because they have a boat that does 100 mph, does not mean it cant run at 35 mph - Always safety first - ! You did say - some made the run - right ? Maybe they were the ones that used their heads while at sea !

Now as for Airborne - here is a shot of me just testing - off Point Pleasant one evening - No Bolster either !

Some how - egos get bruised and they shift to point exclusively to Safety - but both Safety and a Fun Run can be had - maybe not at 100 mph - I understood right away what you were trying to say in your orriginal post - Maybe all the Chrome, Fancy Paint, and the Macho Uniforms need to be replaced !

Oh When Bill Wishnick, Doc Magoon - Willie Meyers, Don Arronow raced - ya never saw a Jumpsuit then or fancy uniforms -

Seems egos are hurt - oh well !


Uhhhhh, well spoken from a guy that obviously doesn't do poker runs because they are meant to be fun... Are you going to ridicule the team where all the women have matching thongs too? Did you know most runs have an award for best dressed crew? Do you remember when Dollabill had a pair of blow up dolls in the back of his Fountain? There is a fun factor here and their isn't much glamour in racing these days when a scratch ticket in the lottery pays better than the weekend purses.........
 
And some of us still have fun in the air!!!!:sifone::sifone:

I'm right there with you Sean! And daddy's not worried to run in the rough!!
 

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Uhhhhh, well spoken from a guy that obviously doesn't do poker runs because they are meant to be fun... Are you going to ridicule the team where all the women have matching thongs too? Did you know most runs have an award for best dressed crew? Do you remember when Dollabill had a pair of blow up dolls in the back of his Fountain? There is a fun factor here and their isn't much glamour in racing these days when a scratch ticket in the lottery pays better than the weekend purses.........

It never was the money in Offshore Racing - those that started what is now modern offshore racing, did not need the money - in fact - the Throttlemen got any money they won - as for the big BAD boats- whats the phrase, "if it does not go, Chrome it ? "

I am confused- is it a Poker Run - or a Poker show and tell ? Why have a 50 ft. boat - a 20 foot boat would do just fine - don't ya think ?

Easy now - - dont get your knickers in a twist !
 
Uhhhhh, well spoken from a guy that obviously doesn't do poker runs because they are meant to be fun... Are you going to ridicule the team where all the women have matching thongs too? Did you know most runs have an award for best dressed crew? Do you remember when Dollabill had a pair of blow up dolls in the back of his Fountain? There is a fun factor here and their isn't much glamour in racing these days when a scratch ticket in the lottery pays better than the weekend purses.........

It never was the money in Offshore Racing - those that started what is now modern offshore racing, did not need the money - in fact - the Throttlemen got any money they won - as for the big BAD boats- whats the phrase, "if it does not go, Chrome it ? "

I am confused- is it a Poker Run - or a Poker show and tell ? Why have a 50 ft. boat - a 20 foot boat would do just fine - don't ya think ?

Easy now - - dont get your knickers in a twist !

Your up early Phil.....Hows Jersey....See ya this summer....
 
Hey Steve - how are you - Meta and the kids - all is well here- when you have young Pups - 8 months old- they get you up early - Just one question- is what is happening to this country really Change we can belive in - or just a nightmare ?
 
It's the same for a lot of things. NASCAR fans that drive souped-up Vettes, people that have BMW's and Porsche's, many of whom couldn't begin to navigate on a track, much less a windy twisty through mountain roads. People like to feel they're part of a group, without necessarily being in the heat of it.

I think Poker runs are probably the closest most people will ever get to this kind of action. They can actually feel more a part of it given the hardware that's out there if they can afford it. Obviously, many are very proficient with their boats, but most lack the time, money, and even the skills to be out in water like that going fast. Just as in every sport, there's a much smaller percentage of people that can handle pushing the envelope.

But think of it this way, without PR's and fans that want to buy the fancy boats regardless of whether they are good pilots or not, racing would probably suffer big time. It's the reason Nike pays Tiger so much to use their equipment. Same with just about anything. The real tribute lies in the boaters that can take their boats out in snotty seas like that and handle it. Takes a special skillset, and like anything else, takes a rare breed. If everyone could do it, it wouldn't be much fun would it?

It´s also the single reason Apaches have such a following... and no show up when there´s a true offshore run to be made.
Miami to Bimini and Round Britain Race in 2008 for example...

Now many guys have asked me why I haven´t started a business tuning cars and boats as a true profession.
Well I choose who I want to wrench for and if my work has a risk of being wasted then I refuse no matter how much money there´s to be had.

So I´m a Racing mechanic and even as we speak I haven´t found a shortage of real racers to work for and have chosen that as a profession instead of building a big garage and take on every customer that want to be part of XXX (fill your favourite here)

And like I´ve said many times about powerboaters well they shouldn´t be compared with offshore racers just like weekend sailboaters shouldn´t be compared to competition sailors because even 10 yr old competitive sailboaters can handle even with their dinghies a lot more than a family boater with their family Ever.
I know I did.
10 footers in North Sea with an optimist dinghy and the races just went on and you had to Finish or you died outthere in hypothermia.
 
Well it has been quite a 24 hours since my first post. Obviously some feelings have been hurt and for that I apologize. My intent was to put the focus on the boats, not the egos.

When this great sport first began, it was a wonderful place for boat manufacturers to show to the world that the product they made could handle open ocean crossings. The winners were rewarded with sales and the losers were allowed to go back and try it again at the next contest.

The boats that are made today are even better than the old ones. My question is why don't the owners (in general...no one in particlar was singled out) feel comfortable runnng them in tough conditions.

From the 50 boats that started, take out the boats with wives, girl friends and kids , and the boats that have owners with no experience in these conditions, there still had to be 10 or 15 boats with crews with experience.

hmmm Why bring Wives to a poker run ?
My Wifey wouldn´t even consider run with me in a racecar or a powerboat if there´s even a slight chance I won´t "behave"...
On the other hand I don´t borrow her racehorses either.... one hard fall was enough...
 
Uhhhhh, well spoken from a guy that obviously doesn't do poker runs because they are meant to be fun... Are you going to ridicule the team where all the women have matching thongs too? Did you know most runs have an award for best dressed crew? Do you remember when Dollabill had a pair of blow up dolls in the back of his Fountain? There is a fun factor here and their isn't much glamour in racing these days when a scratch ticket in the lottery pays better than the weekend purses.........

Over here a customers boat and crew won the best dressed team award by getting pink wigs to everyone.... only guys in the group and partied afterwards around the clock.
The Pink wig idea was a hint to the big boat owners that got spanked by a little guy with a little boat... although a capable one.
The first year with a freshened engine all stringers broke...
Guess some of the Hardcores like Charlie should join us Vikings...more soulmates here I reckon.
 
Okay, Okay I'll shut up, but this is what I was talkng about.

Right size boat, experienced crew, proper trim for conditions and having a ball.

BTW....is Jay the best with these photo shoots of his or what...beautiful.

aka leave the Wife and kids home and have some real A-quality time....
 
I think many would agree that Mr. McCarthy has all the credibility in the world to bring up this topic of discussion. I have found the discussion to be really interesting. Many would also agree that the decision of whether or not to go out in any given condition is the decision of the skippers Wife alone. .

Had to correct a bit...:26:
 
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