TRS to SSM3A

Stellings make the boxes, like I said I'm not sure how it will affect your Gun , but I can say I have rarely seen them. The adjustment is like 3 inches.
 

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The adjustable boxes you're talking about have how much adjustment? And who makes them?

The boxes for the SSM 3-5 are all adjustable ,,max +1 inch.

Then u would need driveline trannys and driveshafts. for each 10 inches back u need to go 1 inch up,,,with #3 a's i recoment go as high as u can .
Also no need to fill anything, just cut out and re-drill .
Boxes will make it run like its 2 feet longer,,,i do think u should stick #5's on the boxes togh butu will have to sacrifice around the dock and in getting on plane time with #5's.
Take a look @ this ,,real numbers.
 

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Stellings make the boxes, like I said I'm not sure how it will affect your Gun , but I can say I have rarely seen them. The adjustment is like 3 inches.

In your pic,,,#4's on boxes.

the adjustment for merc or stelling boxes ( only ones ever made for 3-5 )
is -1, neutral ,or +1 inch.
 
The ideal drivehight for a SSM ,or better a surface drive prop is flush with the bottom of the boat ( propshaft ).

Therefor with the 3a's u never get there ,so i would say NO boxes.
since u have a notched transom ,,,that is already your box !!!!!!
U also dont want to change your engine hight because of the balance of the boat,,,so u will be around 1 inch higher then u are now with the TRS ,,it will help,,but i would go look for a set of #4's or 5's with a 1 inch spacer they be just fine ,,or then wih boxes and no spacer !!!!!!!

The props u should get are 17 X 27 to start,,maybe 28's with 750 each side.
side by side engine likes diameter,,so don't go below 17 inch !!!!!

BEEN THERE ,DONE THIS, ok ok ..still do this .LOL

PS.: need anything or help,,,let me know.
Scott
 
Is the transom assembly the same on a 3A and a 5? I already have 3A's on the Black Thunder.
 
You may want to talk to Dave Dahl aka DJD. He did this swap on his flat deck and can give you LOTS of info on the drive height.

And I believe DJD's old flat deck is now owned by Crazyhorse, who is also a west Michigan native (or was, last time I looked).
 
Is the transom assembly the same on a 3A and a 5? I already have 3A's on the Black Thunder.

Not really ,,but they fit. The #5 gimbal is a little more staudy. But same pattern for studs and oiler.
In the first pic, next to the Merc boxes u can see the surface of a #5 gimbal. The 2nd pic shows a #3 gimbal ( its a lighter bellhousing with support ribbs ) .

LIKE I SAID,, I HAVE ALOT OF STUFF !!! LOL
 

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So a 4 or 5 leg will not bolt on to a 3A transom assembly. Is the 3A and 3 transom assembly identical?
 
So a 4 or 5 leg will not bolt on to a 3A transom assembly. Is the 3A and 3 transom assembly identical?

Yes they do,,,,,its the same boltpattern a 3a is basicley a #5 in a #3 housing and the #4 is a #3 in a #5 housing ( the bottom housing is a diffrent part but looks the same and they all have the same boltpattern ) the down shaft on a #4 (newer) is a polygon shaft which is stronger then the #3 shaft.
Ratings : #3 & #4 700 HP , #3a & #5 750 HP.

But those are old ratings from merc since they only had the HP 800 as the biggest engine back then,which dynoed @ 700 + HP and 800 FPT !!!
The HP means Highperformance infront of the 800 ,not horsepower like some people think.

The #4 big shaft also uses the #5 prop shaft and the reg. #4 has the #3 prop shaft. ( 26 and 19 spline ,,26 same as #6 spline but diffrent shaft )

Hope that clears it up. LOL
 
The ideal drivehight for a SSM ,or better a surface drive prop is flush with the bottom of the boat ( propshaft ).

Therefor with the 3a's u never get there ,so i would say NO boxes.
since u have a notched transom ,,,that is already your box !!!!!!
U also dont want to change your engine hight because of the balance of the boat,,,so u will be around 1 inch higher then u are now with the TRS ,,it will help,,but i would go look for a set of #4's or 5's with a 1 inch spacer they be just fine ,,or then wih boxes and no spacer !!!!!!!

The props u should get are 17 X 27 to start,,maybe 28's with 750 each side.
side by side engine likes diameter,,so don't go below 17 inch !!!!!

BEEN THERE ,DONE THIS, ok ok ..still do this .LOL

PS.: need anything or help,,,let me know.
Scott

thankyou for all in info scott. it's been a big help. i'm going to stick with the 3a's.

todd
 
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