Navy hires Detroit auto workers

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I heard that this was happening in Crain's Detroit Business last week.

But now, from Defense News:

USN To Offer Jobs to Former Ford Motor Workers
By ANTONIE BOESSENKOOL
Published: 8 Jun 2009 12:33 Print | Email

The U.S. Navy is planning to make job offers early this week to at least 30 laid-off auto industry workers after attending a job fair in April for former Ford Motor employees, Navy spokesmen said.

The Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA), the Navy's largest systems command, attended a Detroit-area job fair in late April for the former Ford employees and collected 249 resumes from "very qualified people" in engineering, science and business, said Alan Dean, who heads the Corporate Workforce Office for NAVSEA Warfare Centers.

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These are not positions for former factory floor auto workers, but for engineers who are interested in moving into naval acquisition.

NAVSEA's impetus for attending the April job fair was to fill a demand for vacancies in the Naval Acquisition Associates Program, a new two-year program to transition mid-career workers into jobs in Navy acquisition. The Pentagon's need for people with acquisition management experience was made more acute from hiring freezes in the 1990s, and that need is growing as older workers with experience near retirement, Dean said.

"We had a demand signal of 56 candidates for headquarters," one of NAVSEA's 33 locations, said Douglas Levitas, director of corporate recruiting for NAVSEA. "We saw this as a boon to meeting that demand signal."

"If you look at the resumes that we collected from Detroit, they have the skills that we are actually trying to stimulate growth in, whether it's Lean 6 Sigma practices, engineering integration, contract management, modeling and simulation, data analysis," Dean said. "If an engineer happened to work with water pumps or worked with shock and vibration or worked with robotics, we have elements of our effort in producing ships and sustaining ships that address all of those specific areas."

The hires from Detroit are former team leaders in auto manufacturing and design, so they "fit perfectly" into NAVSEA's shipbuilding programs, said Dave Sivillo, deputy director of the NAVSEA university research business office

"They have a lot of material engineers in the auto industry," who aim to reduce vehicle weight to increase fuel efficiency, Sivillo said. "They use composite materials. We use composite materials on shipbuilding. So that's a direct correlation where their experience for materials can be applied to shipbuilding."

With "Navsea being the organization it is, ... building Navy warships, which includes every aspect of engineering a product, very similar to engineering an automobile, just on a much larger scale; ... we needed to ensure that we tap into as many of these different types of events as possible," Dean said.

NAVSEA plans to share the resumes from the job fair throughout its organization, and also attend a job fair for former employees of General Motors and Chrysler this fall, Levitas said. Salaries for the positions in the NAVSEA acquisition program are in the "same range" as positions held by the former auto workers who will receive offers this week, Sivillo said.
 
So you think a career union guy is going to fit in with the military? This should be good...

This should be good for bar room conversation:

"The Sarge beat the dog snot out of Billy Bob today because Billy Bob thought he deserved a break after he had to stand vs sit next to the coffee machine for 10 minutes while it finished brewing"
 
So you think a career union guy is going to fit in with the military? This should be good...

This should be good for bar room conversation:

"The Sarge beat the dog snot out of Billy Bob today because Billy Bob thought he deserved a break after he had to stand vs sit next to the coffee machine for 10 minutes while it finished brewing"

Actually I think it would be a perfect fit! Most the people my wife works with at Ft. Monmouth (Army) sleep at their desk and have strong need to put things off for tomorrow that can be done today!:leaving:

All kidding aside, they should jump on this!! benefits from the military might just outweigh union due's and benefits!!
 
Navy doesn't want the UAW folks.

They say that they don't want factory floor workers. They want engineers. Plenty of engineers and degreed skilled professionals are UAW. The last job I had was in a hospital that had UAW registered nurses.
 
How does the UAW get into nursing? :ack2:

I know. It blew my mind when I got there. And the answer is.... that they were stronger than the SEIU. From time to time they held votes and the UAW hangs on. So far. And they were top notch nurses.

The other thing on the auto industry is, there has been a change over the years with the advancements in technology, robotics, procurement. Just in time delivery, etc. I think that this is what the Navy sees.

Being my age, and living in a neighborhood with the Jeep plant for many years, I heard all the stories about guys sleeping under cars, car parts going hime in lunch boxes. Drunk lunches. You name it.
I am not a defender of unions, and I have never paid a dime in union dues, but the truth is that the stereotype of the dumb line worker is less accurate than ever. Some of those guys are regulars in our tech forums helping other guys with there engine and drive problems. They are closer to rocket scientists than quarrymen.
I feel that the unions had a place in the protection of workers, especially years ago. But I also feel that they had a role in the decline of the industry itself. The deals that were brokered clearly were not sustainable.
 
the stereotype of the dumb line worker is less accurate than ever. ....... They are closer to rocket scientists than quarrymen.
Yep- that pretty much sums this union worker (ME) up...
I feel that the unions had a place in the protection of workers, especially years ago. But I also feel that they had a role in the decline of the industry itself. The deals that were brokered clearly were not sustainable.

Unions were needed at one time long ago.

If someone is worth X compensation than they go get a job paying them that. I don't need to pay $17/week to my union to get me free health care, vacation, pay raises, etc- I'm worth it and someone would pay me that without a union.

Go to your best employee and tell them you are cutting their pay in 1/2 and then call your top competitor and tell them what you did. Bet that person has a job by lunch time- if you are worth it; some one will pay you it.
 
Go to your best employee and tell them you are cutting their pay in 1/2 and then call your top competitor and tell them what you did. Bet that person has a job by lunch time- if you are worth it; some one will pay you it.

Agree. The most skilled workers are ALWAYS in demand, regardless of the economy. A lot of employers are using this down economy as a chance to do "skills upgrades."

There's work out there folks, you just need to work harder/smarter to find it! I had 1 position open a week ago and I was down and out, actually depressed.... So I said f' it and I worked my azz off the last two weeks making cold calls, netowrking, sending emails, farming linkedin contacts etc and now I have 11 open requirements with 4 different clients all willing to pay me to find top talent. :)

If anyone works in the engineering, IT or technical fields and are looking for work please feel free to contact me, I'm always willing to help! Even if I don't have anything for you I'll be glad to refer you to people that I know.

frank.ungarten@cmi.com
 
It is such a union area where I live. Last night I was watching TV falling asleep and a commercial came on telling people which drug stores that they should and should not shop, because some drug stores actually employ NON UNION entry-level employees.

The 16 year old girl named Tiffany who rang up my six pack and works part time does not benefit from collective bargaining!!???!!! We should boycott.
 
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