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Looking at tow rigs... what would you buy?
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fixxxer22
SO Tech Expert: Ford PSD's
I agree for the moment... I go to my new model training on march 10th. And I will let you guys know what i have learned about the new 6.7 I have taken my web based prerequisite classes and have learned that the 6.7 is easier to service egr vaves and coolers. It also supports the DPF system with the afterburner effect. It also has a NOX emissions ureah injector in the tail end of the exhaust. so now, you have to fill your exhaust fluid every oil change. Which we have estimated that the new 6.7 will have an oil change price af about $200.00. The power is supposed to a little better or equal to the 6.4.
My sales managers expect the 2001-2007 model trucks value to rise after 1 year has passed after the launch of the new 2011 diesels by all brands.
fixxxer22
SO Tech Expert: Ford PSD's
the only thing that can stop a V-10 ford or dodge is a gas station! They can pull houses down!
fund razor
Founding Member
Well... as threatened... I am having the 7500 pound hitch removed and a 12,000 pound hitch installed Friday. Anybody want a 7500 pound hitch? 
fund razor
Founding Member
Prophet.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
It's amazing what a car company can do with between an $86 Billion and $100 Billion tax free, interest free, liability free donation.....
Interestingly enough there were right at 90 million people who actually paid taxes to the feds that year. But the estimates are it saved approximately 50,000 jobs????
Interestingly enough there were right at 90 million people who actually paid taxes to the feds that year. But the estimates are it saved approximately 50,000 jobs????
fund razor
Founding Member
When they were going to do the bailout, I was against it. As a free-market capitalist, it sounded like socialism. But then I spent a few years working in the greater Detroit area, and I saw the impact. I saw the determination of the automakers and the quality of the product. I also thought about the historical disproportionate value of Detroit and the industrial complex to the rest of the country. Frankly, and without hyperbole... any student of american history knows that Detroit won world war 2. I think that they had one bailout coming.
Nice to see so much of it being repaid, and the industry becoming quite relevant again in the world car market. It's been a while since there were so many american car models that I would be glad to own and drive.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
I will respectfully disagree.
Chrysler is a foreign auto maker now, not one of the so-called Big Three. They are Fiat. As the money turns, a foreign auto maker and a union received billions of us taxpayer money to take over an auto manufacturer. For what? To make sure Ford had some competition so they would not be as likely to succeed without a bailout too? As for GM, it just makes me sick. The amount that taxpayers and secured creditors lodt in the Chrysler scam is one thing. But $100 Billion in the GM scam. Come on, every penny of what the management and employees received in benefits should be repaid into the taxpayers coffers. I mean, we give them $100 billion, and it looks as if two years in a row now the 45,000 employees will receive profit sharing checks of over $4000 each?
Currently, the stock value is about half what the US government needs it to be to a break even on the $50 billion in loans it said were "loans" on the shares held as collateral, and GM has already started to lose money in their overseas operations, and their profits were down 15% versus the previous years 3rd quarter.I believe because with the bailout instead of a lawful bankruptcy, there was no restructuring of the union contracts to make the automaker competitive with the foreign manufacturers we allow to manufacture with a competitive advantage in the first place, and without the drag of uncompetitive union contracts and entitlements.
I fully expect them to go bankrupt in the future, and the taxpayers to be holding a minimum $200 Billion in unfunded union retirement expenses. But I'm currently a pessimist when it comes to anything operated by the US Government, and GM is one of those. DO you really believe they would report a loss when their books are controlled by the US Government in an election year? I thinking more along the lines of Freddie Mac and Fannie May.....
Chrysler is a foreign auto maker now, not one of the so-called Big Three. They are Fiat. As the money turns, a foreign auto maker and a union received billions of us taxpayer money to take over an auto manufacturer. For what? To make sure Ford had some competition so they would not be as likely to succeed without a bailout too? As for GM, it just makes me sick. The amount that taxpayers and secured creditors lodt in the Chrysler scam is one thing. But $100 Billion in the GM scam. Come on, every penny of what the management and employees received in benefits should be repaid into the taxpayers coffers. I mean, we give them $100 billion, and it looks as if two years in a row now the 45,000 employees will receive profit sharing checks of over $4000 each?
Currently, the stock value is about half what the US government needs it to be to a break even on the $50 billion in loans it said were "loans" on the shares held as collateral, and GM has already started to lose money in their overseas operations, and their profits were down 15% versus the previous years 3rd quarter.I believe because with the bailout instead of a lawful bankruptcy, there was no restructuring of the union contracts to make the automaker competitive with the foreign manufacturers we allow to manufacture with a competitive advantage in the first place, and without the drag of uncompetitive union contracts and entitlements.
I fully expect them to go bankrupt in the future, and the taxpayers to be holding a minimum $200 Billion in unfunded union retirement expenses. But I'm currently a pessimist when it comes to anything operated by the US Government, and GM is one of those. DO you really believe they would report a loss when their books are controlled by the US Government in an election year? I thinking more along the lines of Freddie Mac and Fannie May.....
fund razor
Founding Member
Ok. That works for me.
It was a totally distracting hijack for anyone who came here to read about tow vehicles anyway.