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Wrinkleface
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Wrinkleface
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BBB725
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I hope it wasn't the same one I got:sifone:
LaughingCat
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Looks like the Market is shaking off the bad news. Health stocks are up, prescription manufacturers are up, index is up. Maybe having many more people signed up and getting services might make them money. Just saying. . .
LAriverratt
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How much money did those industries put into trying to derail this BS??? not much imo..it was a win win for them I think...should have seen this coming and invested accordingly...wonder where our esteemed elected officials money is invested??? HMMMMMMMM
LaughingCat
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The health care industry always straddles the fence. They gave to McCain and Obama. They gave to Hillary, Edwards, everyone. They just don't want you to truly ruffle anything up.
Even if the public option comes into play later in the year, they'll all make plenty. The private insurance companies will have to drop their premium amounts and take everyone. They'll still make a mint. Remember, you dont have to make much off each person when you make a killing off everyone. Their model is involuntarily being changes from gouge the few to profit hevily off the many.
The peasants are upset about HCR. But the Kings are all fine and they will be fine.
Even if the public option comes into play later in the year, they'll all make plenty. The private insurance companies will have to drop their premium amounts and take everyone. They'll still make a mint. Remember, you dont have to make much off each person when you make a killing off everyone. Their model is involuntarily being changes from gouge the few to profit hevily off the many.
The peasants are upset about HCR. But the Kings are all fine and they will be fine.
LaughingCat
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Before this thread dies, I just wanted to say that I am glad we had a civil discussion about a heated topic. This is a major improvement over times past.
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phragle
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I saw plenty about having to offer insurance to everybody and not denying pre-existing conditions... It may be in there somewhere, but I saw nothing about not being able to charge out the azz for it. Sure we will cover your obese diabetic azz...just $999 a month....
fund razor
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Did you catch the part about the increasingly graduated fines for people who are uninsured?
LaughingCat
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I don't know about specific language. But there are two things to consider. One is that the HCR legislation removed the decades-old exemption for insurance companies from the Federal Anti-trust laws. This eans that any unfair or anti-competitve practices (like the insurance companies colluding to fix prices) is illegal. So fair competition will likely drive them down.
The second, and many of you may not want to hear this, is that the Dems are whispering about bringing back the public option at a later date, probably after the mid-term elections when they see if they still can do it. If customers have a government option with a reasonable price, then insurance companies will have to compete for the lion's share. Otherwise, if they focus only on the wealthier customers who buy Cadillac plans, they will turn into much smaller, regional type insurance companies and lose size and clout.
I'm not telling you how I necessarily want it, but this looks like the most realistic outcome on the horizon.
fund razor
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I remember when I thought that all of the people in the 60s were cool. They fought the establishment..."the man."
I ate that up when I was young. Hippies like the bomb throwing Bill Ayers and the weather underground, Cloward and Pivens who wanted to collapse the system by getting people on welfare. The SDS. Dangerous, drug-fueled, Marxists.
Now that these same former radicals are the man, and have become the inner circle to the president... I am scared as phuck of them.
I ate that up when I was young. Hippies like the bomb throwing Bill Ayers and the weather underground, Cloward and Pivens who wanted to collapse the system by getting people on welfare. The SDS. Dangerous, drug-fueled, Marxists.
Now that these same former radicals are the man, and have become the inner circle to the president... I am scared as phuck of them.
phragle
Charter Member
LotoSteve
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I thought they were cool because of all the puzzy they were getting. And you have to admit, the best Rock & Roll came out of th 60's.
phragle
Charter Member
Let me get this straight. The new health care plan will be written by a committee whose Chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress which hasn't read it, signed by a President who smokes, funded by a Treasury Sec. who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a Surgeon General who is obese, and financed... by a....... country that is nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong?
LaughingCat
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I admit it
