FunHome
Charter Member
I agree, just because the boat count was down this year in P-3 don't throw it away... Leave it there for next year... Boat count was down in all classes!!
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I agree, just because the boat count was down this year in P-3 don't throw it away... Leave it there for next year... Boat count was down in all classes!!
SVL66
Charter Member
APBA originally was 70, 80, 90, 100, 110mph...that worked ok too. OPA ran accordingly. If you went that route, then you would be further out of alignment with OPA, making it more difficult for us to cross race associations. I think 75 mph for class 5 is good because F-1 boats can stay in 5. They used to run class4. Not that it really matters to me. but why fix what seems to be working? Once again, it appears you want to change the rules for a few boats that are borderline. I dont really hear anyone complaining, other than you and Trent. Unfortunately, you run a boat that just falls out of 5. Build a reliable motor and you should have no problems competing in 4. Trent needs to figure out how to handle his issue. Once again, to make everyone happy, you'de need to add more classes. we all know everyone cant be happy. Deal with it.
F1-00 Racing
Competitor
Bruce,
This is how I am handling it. Right, wrong, or indifferent. I fit in and never complained when it was 82(2008 rules) then they changed it to 85(2009 rules) now they want to re-invent the wheel again for 2010. With Ole Betsy being a tweener, it costs money to modify things for the rules and when you keep changing the rules every year, I'm over it real quick. I never professed at anytime in my career to be made of money, when they show me some consistency and weed out the one bad seed then I'll reconsider my stance and bring her back. Who knows, maybe I'm that bad seed and this will be for the best.
I take that back, I did kinda complain quietly in 08 when I looked down at my GPS and I was doing 81.3 and one of the boats passed me like I was sitting still, but then never got dqed for breaking out. Point was if it were 82 I would go into P4 happily and I am sure flip flop can attest when she gets over 83-84 she gets out of the water and gets real slippery and out of control, add waves to that now and what do you have? My complaint for 09 was simple, you have 4 registered boats with 500's in their boat, I belong in that class as well, I dont care if its called P-20. Its not like the association doesnt have my dyno sheet.... I guess whatever they decide to change the rules to now dont really apply to the Trent Race Association as I make my own rules and I will dominate my class....
DAREDEVIL
Banned
I never knew u could talk that much chit and nonsense !!!!!!:rofl:
must be the coach disease.
F1-00 Racing
Competitor
I tryed learning from you, your the bestess, but I'm no match for your drivel
DAREDEVIL
Banned
NO NO buddy ,,,u top me out by alot,,,,u win !!!!
F1-00 Racing
Competitor
Why thank you and that means a lot to me. We all know the old racing adage that "You cant win unless you finish" It warms my heart to hear that you think of me as a finisher! At least I left one decent impression of me in the sport...
MOBILEMERCMAN
Founding Member / Competitor
Get a room ....LOL
DAREDEVIL
Banned
Wahoo 214
Charter Member
Hey DD, you should do your homework. The boat you are trying to bash, was the SBI UIM APBA Class 4 champion as Zero Cavity. To win that title you have to not only finish a race but win. It was also back when SBI had a boat count.
Wahoo 214
Charter Member
Trent,your problem is you came late to the thread. It was orginally in the general racers section and intended to create simarlities across all the Orgs. And as I stated earlier, if you have a problem with your Org join OPA. It works just fine.
skaterdave
New member
well appearently thees something that i missed between D@#$@#devil's new class rules idea the current situtation in sbi's p class.
first to fix something, one must recognize the problem and them come up with possible solutions.
f100trent and dd seem to have some personal issues here playing that are hindering the outcome or solution.
next it was said this would help to have more boats in less classes and make for better racing???
if your running all the p classes together the average fan doesn't know if theres 3 classes vs 5 classes. so this does nothing to improve the actual race
next it was said to lessen the classes would improve prize money :
hea for the top one or two guys that are sand baggin, yea thats great. and don't forget that in order to have prize money there needs to be atleast, if remember right, 3 boats and the first place guys gets 3rd place prize money and you'd need to have 5 or 6 boats for the winner to actually get 1st place prize money. even better is you gotta wait till the following season to get your prize money. we had to wait till after KW to get paid for sarasota ??? agian at other motorsports events the winner gets a trophy and a check all in the same day!
plus if you guys adopt DD new rules, this would make running between the orgs even more problematic since as of right know the rules are quite similar. this new "3 classes" is going in the opposite direction of trying to unifiy rules between orgs.
what else you guys got ?
first to fix something, one must recognize the problem and them come up with possible solutions.
f100trent and dd seem to have some personal issues here playing that are hindering the outcome or solution.
next it was said this would help to have more boats in less classes and make for better racing???
if your running all the p classes together the average fan doesn't know if theres 3 classes vs 5 classes. so this does nothing to improve the actual race
next it was said to lessen the classes would improve prize money :
hea for the top one or two guys that are sand baggin, yea thats great. and don't forget that in order to have prize money there needs to be atleast, if remember right, 3 boats and the first place guys gets 3rd place prize money and you'd need to have 5 or 6 boats for the winner to actually get 1st place prize money. even better is you gotta wait till the following season to get your prize money. we had to wait till after KW to get paid for sarasota ??? agian at other motorsports events the winner gets a trophy and a check all in the same day!
plus if you guys adopt DD new rules, this would make running between the orgs even more problematic since as of right know the rules are quite similar. this new "3 classes" is going in the opposite direction of trying to unifiy rules between orgs.
what else you guys got ?
F1-00 Racing
Competitor
I apologize and bow down to you. I read this thread and thought the intent was to get together in Key West for a meeting to discuss SBI's rules....
But I guess the originator of this thread agrees with you as well:dupe:
I never read anything about unifying the rules or any intent of unifying the rules,only a meeting in Key West. I have told "1Waterboy1" if you'll go to a Garmin GPS setup I'll be there in a heart beat or if you create a no seals, no tech, spec class for single engines 500/525's I'll come as well cause you know we're all about the same...
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
I thought the GPS's in SBI had to be a Garmin? Am I missing something?
8.5.
All Manufacturer Production classes will be required to have an on board, fixed mounted Garmin GPS that has trip and data card downloading capabilities. Contact the SBIP / APBA Offshore office for a specific approved list of Garmin GPS Units. ( Currently the 172, 182, and 192 model )
8.5.
All Manufacturer Production classes will be required to have an on board, fixed mounted Garmin GPS that has trip and data card downloading capabilities. Contact the SBIP / APBA Offshore office for a specific approved list of Garmin GPS Units. ( Currently the 172, 182, and 192 model )
F1-00 Racing
Competitor
Yes you are right, GPS in OPA are the trucking gps deals, I was telling Wahoo that if they were to go to the Garmins I would come back up to OPA, I assume he gave me an invitation in post 152
DAREDEVIL
Banned
LOL:rofl:
F1-00 Racing
Competitor
I am leaving this thread as it is going no where and I wished DD the best with his meeting. I am going to start a thread in General as I want everyones input and I expect to get beat up on it, because as Dean says OPA works, but it is a proposal I have been working on since 2007 in which all P would be eliminated and bring the total V classes down to 4, instead of the what, 10 we have now.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
I know I'm off track here. But what do you not like about the issued GPS's used in OPA?
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
You're right, you'll get crucified.....:sifone:
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