Steve 1
Contributor
Yes I have worked in Union shops also and saw something a little different.
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Mercury Marine To Close And Move All Production From Fond du Lac, Wisconsin......
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Yes I have worked in Union shops also and saw something a little different.
From what I understand of the primary issues, it's the laid off employees being called back that would be on the bottom again. This article points to wages of $20/hour and higher for some employees depending on their jobs. $11 to $13 for people called back or new hires. With well over 100 contract changes, who knows what else would have changed.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/54321942.html
When things are bad, a job seems better than no job. But long term, I would think the revisions would have a substantial impact on both the employees and the region. I have no idea what the employees in Stillwater make now, but we'll see how this works out for them.
In the end, without a strong middle class that actually has a standard of living, you have no customers. I'm certainly not sticking up for the union here, nor any unions. But this all harkens back to Ross Perot's Giant Sucking Sound. In the end, the new boss will be the same as the old boss. Only cheaper.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/54321942.html
When things are bad, a job seems better than no job. But long term, I would think the revisions would have a substantial impact on both the employees and the region. I have no idea what the employees in Stillwater make now, but we'll see how this works out for them.
In the end, without a strong middle class that actually has a standard of living, you have no customers. I'm certainly not sticking up for the union here, nor any unions. But this all harkens back to Ross Perot's Giant Sucking Sound. In the end, the new boss will be the same as the old boss. Only cheaper.
Steve 1
Contributor
Everything is Economy based now with Communists in power (thanks too the unions) we are in for a rough ride. There is NO Magic here so how can Mercury pay if the money is not there and if the union employees are too stupid to see that LITTLE fact then how can you reason with them or feel pity.
Ratickle
Founding Member / Super Moderator
That is one of the ultimate ironies.........
The Unions have done more to get Democrats (Socialists & Liberals), elected than any other long term group of voters.
In turn, the Democrats (Socialists & Liberals), have done more to put them out of work and send their jobs out of the country (and give major portions of their earnings to those who don't work), than any other political party, or business entity.
THEJOKER
New member
Does anybody know?
Magicfloat
Charter Member
Fond du Lac
Just from their Annual Report.
Mercury Marine’s sterndrive and outboard engines are produced primarily in Oklahoma and Wisconsin, respectively.
Mercury Marine manufactures 40, 50 and 60 horsepower four-stroke outboard engines in a facility in China, and, in a joint
venture with its partner, Tohatsu Corporation, produces smaller outboard engines in Japan. Some engine components are
sourced from Asian suppliers. Mercury Marine also manufactures engine component parts at plants in Florida and Mexico.
Diesel marine propulsion systems are manufactured in South Carolina by CMD. Further, Mercury Marine operates a
remanufacturing business for engines and service parts in Wisconsin.
In addition to its marine engine operations, Mercury Marine serves markets outside the United States with a wide range of
aluminum, fiberglass and inflatable boats produced either by, or for, Mercury Marine in China, New Zealand, Poland, Portugal,
Russia and Sweden. These boats, which are marketed under the brand names Arvor, Bermuda, Guernsey, Legend, Lodestar,
Mercury, Örnvik, Protector, Quicksilver, Uttern and Valiant, are typically equipped with engines manufactured by Mercury
Marine and often include other parts and accessories supplied by Mercury Marine. Mercury Marine has an equity ownership
interest in a company that manufactures boats under the brand names Aquador, Bella and Flipper in Finland. Mercury Marine
also manufactures propellers and underwater sterngear for inboard-powered vessels, under the Teignbridge brand, in the United
Kingdom.
Inter-company sales to the Boat Group represented approximately 17 percent of Mercury Marine sales in 2008. Domestic
retail demand for the Marine Engine segment’s products is seasonal, with sales generally highest in the second calendar quarter
of the year.
Mercury Marine’s sterndrive and outboard engines are produced primarily in Oklahoma and Wisconsin, respectively.
Mercury Marine manufactures 40, 50 and 60 horsepower four-stroke outboard engines in a facility in China, and, in a joint
venture with its partner, Tohatsu Corporation, produces smaller outboard engines in Japan. Some engine components are
sourced from Asian suppliers. Mercury Marine also manufactures engine component parts at plants in Florida and Mexico.
Diesel marine propulsion systems are manufactured in South Carolina by CMD. Further, Mercury Marine operates a
remanufacturing business for engines and service parts in Wisconsin.
In addition to its marine engine operations, Mercury Marine serves markets outside the United States with a wide range of
aluminum, fiberglass and inflatable boats produced either by, or for, Mercury Marine in China, New Zealand, Poland, Portugal,
Russia and Sweden. These boats, which are marketed under the brand names Arvor, Bermuda, Guernsey, Legend, Lodestar,
Mercury, Örnvik, Protector, Quicksilver, Uttern and Valiant, are typically equipped with engines manufactured by Mercury
Marine and often include other parts and accessories supplied by Mercury Marine. Mercury Marine has an equity ownership
interest in a company that manufactures boats under the brand names Aquador, Bella and Flipper in Finland. Mercury Marine
also manufactures propellers and underwater sterngear for inboard-powered vessels, under the Teignbridge brand, in the United
Kingdom.
Inter-company sales to the Boat Group represented approximately 17 percent of Mercury Marine sales in 2008. Domestic
retail demand for the Marine Engine segment’s products is seasonal, with sales generally highest in the second calendar quarter
of the year.
phragle
Charter Member
Steve 1
Contributor
Maybe intelligence will prevail here and they will vote wisely this time!
BBB725
Benefactor
Union vote will be Thursday and Friday, Mercury also approved to accept the revote. Hopefully third times a charm
rbhudelson
E Dock
Now the company has lost its mind. Why would you want to stay in bed with leadership of this union?
Magicfloat
Charter Member
Mercury had no intention of leaving FDL.They just wanted concessions from the union and used Stillwater as a big stick. Don't ever get in a poker game with Merc's president.
Wrinkleface
Founding Member
:banghead:
MetalBrosRacing
New member
If they stay it will be one of the dumbest business decisions ever.
Sea-Dated
Charter Member
I have to agree
Wrinkleface
Founding Member
& pay the dues!!!:willy_nilly:
I agree with Robert here.
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