The Great Unification

Good point.......:rofl:

You know both of you should watch the remake of "The Thomas Crown Affair" with Peirce Brosnan....If he can flip a sailboat I am sure I can flip a sailboat...I didn't say I was going to get a slow, slow sailboat I was going to get a fast, slow sailboat...:sifone::sifone::sifone:
 
Mark, Sure was fun racing this past weekend.

Life sure is better when you get to race.:biggrinjester:[/QUOTE]


Yes it was!!!!!! Its one to one on my count. I though that was the point of race boats was to race other boats.

Wild Ride might make the trip to Sunny Isles. Maybe Bruce?
 
Yes it is and it happens on 525 reguarly. There is no way to tech them on 525 unless you have the proper tools. OSS does not have the proper tools. Check sum is not a valid option and it is easily beat.
Steve
 
Steve I do race with OPA as well. At this point I have no desire or the funds to race with SBI. I thought I just thanked you and Mike for some good times racing in the LLC. Why do you keep kicking me in the nuts when I dont race with SBI. I happen to believe in the OSS model.
Mike as a business man I dont blame you for pulling the plug. If you cant make money at it get out. Dont blame the racers for your failer. You were the CEO of the LLC and there is no one but yourself to point fingers at. Some where you lost touch with the racers and they left. It sucked when it fell apart for me as well. Can we please move on its been years now.
MD

Funny the OSS model is just a ripoff of the LLC. This post is exactly why no one will put their time and money up to build a circuit for most Offshore racers.
Steve
 
Funny the OSS model is just a ripoff of the LLC. This post is exactly why no one will put their time and money up to build a circuit for most Offshore racers.
Steve

Hey Steve

Whats up bro??? I was going to give it a shot but the only thing I can't get everyone to agree on is to disagree on everything!!!! So I am going to politely roll up my quest and watch it all from the sidelines!!!! Hope to see you sometime bro!!!!

Sean
 
Sean, Now that you have tryed to talk to all the party's at hand and you feel it is unrepairable at this time, PLEASE give us your opinion as to why you are throwing in the towel. You have spent lots of time on this project and probualy have the best insite as of today. Thanks for your efforts.
MD
 
Yes it is and it happens on 525 reguarly. There is no way to tech them on 525 unless you have the proper tools. OSS does not have the proper tools. Check sum is not a valid option and it is easily beat.
Steve

Anyone can cheat in any form of racing. It requires having enough integrity not to. Not the idea that if You don't get caught that it ok. So if you want to race the best in SVL it is a with OSS and it is done legally. Is that why you don't race with us?
 
Guys...

I hate to say this, but for once, JUST ONCE, Im going to agree with Gino. If Merc is out of the picture, and we can come up with a fair and fool proof way of teching the other motors, I think we should consider them. If this is the only way to get all the Vee Lites on the course at the same time....BRING IT. 12 - 15 Vee Lites on the course will put on an helluva show. And quite possibly, steal the show. With the possibility of TV coverage, now is the time to look outside the box and into the future. Everything we've done so far, has not worked. It's time to try something else.

I talked to Randy about possibly doing some SBI races as well. He is really on a tight wire right now, And also has ill feelings. If he agreed to run with me in my boat and Steve and Bob M and Pirate came out to play, I would consider racing SBI as well. I can only do a linited schedule this year. But if this is what it takes to bring everyone together, Im all for it.

I know JC has said "the past is the past", lets move forward. Everyone can race as long as they play by the rules.
 
If you read the rules for OSS It states that other engine packages can be submitted for approval if they make 100 units or more and there is no competitive advantage.
 
Anyone can cheat in any form of racing. It requires having enough integrity not to. Not the idea that if You don't get caught that it ok. So if you want to race the best in SVL it is a with OSS and it is done legally. Is that why you don't race with us?


Yea that's it. You crack me up!
Steve
 
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If you read the rules for OSS It states that other engine packages can be submitted for approval if they make 100 units or more and there is no competitive advantage.


Ilmor has over 100 units. That is a hurdle M<ercury Racing had added to the ripped off LLC rules (mike and I wrote) They thought would never get eclipsed. So let Ilmor in. I will buy one. Didnt the whole side of your boat say "Mercury Racing"
Steve
 
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Guys...

I hate to say this, but for once, JUST ONCE, Im going to agree with Gino. If Merc is out of the picture, and we can come up with a fair and fool proof way of teching the other motors, I think we should consider them. If this is the only way to get all the Vee Lites on the course at the same time....BRING IT. 12 - 15 Vee Lites on the course will put on an helluva show. And quite possibly, steal the show. With the possibility of TV coverage, now is the time to look outside the box and into the future. Everything we've done so far, has not worked. It's time to try something else.

I talked to Randy about possibly doing some SBI races as well. He is really on a tight wire right now, And also has ill feelings. If he agreed to run with me in my boat and Steve and Bob M and Pirate came out to play, I would consider racing SBI as well. I can only do a linited schedule this year. But if this is what it takes to bring everyone together, Im all for it.

I know JC has said "the past is the past", lets move forward. Everyone can race as long as they play by the rules.

Well put Bruce
I will show if one boat shows up. Anyone can go for a ride in my boat at anytime.
Steve
 
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If you read the rules for OSS It states that other engine packages can be submitted for approval if they make 100 units or more and there is no competitive advantage.


Ilmor has over 100 units. That is a hurdle M<ercury Racing had added to the ripped off LLC rules (mike and I wrote) They thought would never get eclipsed. So let Ilmor in. I will by one. Didnt the whole side of your boat say "Mercury Racing"
Steve

Not suprised just reading what the rules say. If the Ilmor has an equal or can make an equal than Ok.

It did, but it was on the boat when we bought it.
 
Are you sure you know it all?

Well I know enough about this subject.
It was my task with the LLC to evaluate how secure our rules and tech procedures were for every engine platform. When the engines were carb it was easier. The injected engines are much easier to hide performance advantages.

Without touching the ECM you can make more power on a 525 several ways.

If you get in the ECM which has happened you have even greater advantages. If you combine that with a fuel program you can easily have a significant advantage.
Steve
 
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