Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick and GMC

[clayinaustin]

A Painful Departure for G.M. Brands

First was Oldsmobile. Now Pontiac, Hummer, and Saturn will disappear from the GM lineup.

I think they could also drop Buick, and just have Chevy for cars, GMC for trucks, and Cadillac for luxury.

Just my two-cents... :seeya:

 

[rainmn]

Why bother having both Chevy & GMC even...don't they both make the same trucks? I think all they need are Chevy & Caddy...like Toyota / Lexus or Nissan / Infiniti.


By the way - you left Saab off your list. I understand GM is looking to unload them as well.

EDIT - I just saw your other post about Saab.

 

[clayinaustin]

By the way - you left Saab off your list. I understand GM is looking to unload them as well.

EDIT - I just saw your other post about Saab.

I didn't include Saab here because it was not started by GM. I think that Saab will get sold and still sell cars.

 

[masher44]

Hummers blow except military. Buick blows. Saturn blows. Pontiac blows.

 

[LotoSteve]

Saturn is the one I dont understand. For the money, they are pretty good cars.

 

[45Sonic]

If you have ever worked on a Saturn it is almost the same as a Chevy or Pontiac.

Hummer can go away at least from public sale. Although the military doesn't seem to happy with them either.

Buick is for old farts


The rest can stay :

 

[Dude! Sweet!]

How come we're not hearing a word about Ford? Seems like Ford hasn't asked for money? Is it not news that one of the company's isn't totally F'd up?

 

[Mark]

How come we're not hearing a word about Ford? Seems like Ford hasn't asked for money? Is it not news that one of the company's isn't totally F'd up?

Ford went through a big restructuring a few years ago. They were in big trouble back then. The moron grandson finally steped aside and they brought in some really good talent. Otherwise, they would have been the first to fold a long time ago.

I'm for GMC only. Caddy mostly sucks.

 

[sledge]

Buick is the #1 brand in China and still has a large fleet following I think; GM isn't going to let that go. Pontiac might stay around as a niche builder...not sure how that works out. I haven't read through the whole thing, just looked at the NPV calcs and bankruptcy assumptions.

http://media.gm.com/us/gm/en/news/govt/docs/plan.pdf

 

[Davidmnc]

Hummers blow except military. Buick blows. Saturn blows. Pontiac blows.

So what are you trying to say? :huh:

 

[RLJ676]

Hummers blow except military. Buick blows. Saturn blows. Pontiac blows.

I'd say your not familiar with the G8 GXP, best sports sedan under 40K, period.

If Pontiac can keep it and the Solstice that's enough for me.

Buick is lame now, except Enclave, but there next two cars coming are an incredible improvement and will surprise a lot of people. The LaCrosse coming this year is awesome, and the smaller vehicle after it will be as well.

 

[BBB725]

Gm has too many cars off the same platform,ie firebird/camaro simplify call all the cars/trucks/SUV GM and make one model, Firearo or Cambird and reduce costs

 

[boomer35]

Got to stick with Chevy trucks, though some will say GMC is nicer, it still stands for Gay Mens Club

 

[Pachanga]

One of the best cars I rented in the past was a Pontiac Grand Prix. I liked it so much I almost went out and bought one. I don't know about reliability, etc. but seems like a nitch to me.

 

[phragle]

they need to combine. I was truck shopping a couple years ago, basically I wanted an f150, red, monochrome with a tan interior and power windows.. ok the STX pkg has monochrome bumpers, but you cant get power windows on a STX, ohh and a red truck with tan interior?? ford won't build it. so much for that sale.

 

[phragle]

Just one of the things that biting the american co's in the ass... if you got rid of it all, condensed things..the customer would actually benefit. imagine if getting a car went like this..
All the GM line was available from one dealer under one nametage (since we all acknowledge 95% of it is rebadged and only cosmetically different.) so you go to skippy's GM dealership, look at a couple models, take a test drive, look at the options available, compltetely different interiors, front and rear fascia's, engine sizes, trim levels. you sit down with the dealer, he brings up a the car on computer, base car A. then you sellect engine trim molding bumpers interior wheels tires electronics ( think like you start with a ford expedition, you just change and upgrade options untill you have a fully loaded navigator) , then that build sheet is transfered to the factory electronically, 3 weeks later he calls and tell you the car is in, your car built exactly how you want it, looking exactly how you want it...

 

[BBB725]

Just one of the things that biting the american co's in the ass... if you got rid of it all, condensed things..the customer would actually benefit. imagine if getting a car went like this..
All the GM line was available from one dealer under one nametage (since we all acknowledge 95% of it is rebadged and only cosmetically different.) so you go to skippy's GM dealership, look at a couple models, take a test drive, look at the options available, compltetely different interiors, front and rear fascia's, engine sizes, trim levels. you sit down with the dealer, he brings up a the car on computer, base car A. then you sellect engine trim molding bumpers interior wheels tires electronics ( think like you start with a ford expedition, you just change and upgrade options untill you have a fully loaded navigator) , then that build sheet is transfered to the factory electronically, 3 weeks later he calls and tell you the car is in, your car built exactly how you want it, looking exactly how you want it...

How dare you want it to make sense and be customer friendly, the next thing you'll do is make them profitable :biggrinjester:

 

[FULL FORCE]

How come we're not hearing a word about Ford? Seems like Ford hasn't asked for money? Is it not news that one of the company's isn't totally F'd up?

Because they're doing it right... I am glad since I am a Ford guy, I have ran all of my Fords to a ton of miles and had minimal issues, I am big on maintainence so that helps, my F-250 has 278,00 and going strong, and runs 15.0 in the 1/4 so far.. faster this summer..all y Explorers went to 180,000 ish before I sold them...on Explorer 4 now with 75,000 and have done nothing but a wheel bearing and one brake job.

I think that Pontiac should stay for the "younger" crowd, ditch Buick, hummer...and use Chevy for cars/suv, and GMC for the trucks, Cadillac for luxury.

My .02

 

[Pachanga]

Hmmm, I guess you have never ordered a car or truck before. I ordered the last dually I owned and it was similiar to what you are suggesting. Took 6 or 8 weeks.

This could be the wave of the future in new cars. No dealer floorplans,workers paid by production, etc. This inevitably would increase the price of a car while increasing profitability as well! Look at all the jobs that would disappear!

Just one of the things that biting the american co's in the ass... if you got rid of it all, condensed things..the customer would actually benefit. imagine if getting a car went like this..
All the GM line was available from one dealer under one nametage (since we all acknowledge 95% of it is rebadged and only cosmetically different.) so you go to skippy's GM dealership, look at a couple models, take a test drive, look at the options available, compltetely different interiors, front and rear fascia's, engine sizes, trim levels. you sit down with the dealer, he brings up a the car on computer, base car A. then you sellect engine trim molding bumpers interior wheels tires electronics ( think like you start with a ford expedition, you just change and upgrade options untill you have a fully loaded navigator) , then that build sheet is transfered to the factory electronically, 3 weeks later he calls and tell you the car is in, your car built exactly how you want it, looking exactly how you want it...

 

[Madpoodle]

I order all my vehicles..

And the Sport package would have gotten your monochrome look..